Berger and McCloud Questions

Dr. Steven Kapela

Avalon Bednarcik

Before you read

1. I’m a painter walking through the woods; I set my equipment down and decided to draw beautiful women. This women was imaginary, she would be looking directly at me because I’m friendly, and so she has no reason to walk away. She would be a very pretty women and she would be floating on top of the water, like a magical being. There are beautiful glowing trees  and bugs flying all around. I want the scene to seem very mystical and relaxing. I would not make this women naked or nude because I feel there is no need for this women to be running around the woods without close on. She would most likely be wherein vines around her.

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In many pictures of women, they can be somewhat degrating compared to pictures of men. Although in the picture to the left Angelina Jolie is simplely standing there with confidence and showing off her tatoo. Johnny Depp is in the picture to the right. He is also standing with confidence and rocking a very nice hat. These celebraties seem to be depicted as eqauls in these pictures. Although, each of these individuals have been presented, less classy, depending on the photographer.

Questions for Discussion and Journaling

1. Yes, I beileve the aritists creating these picture knew exactly what they were painting. Typically all artists have a clear cut idea of what they wish to create before they begin. Although they may have also noticed they were turnign these people and objects into to possions. Putting themselves into their preception of this object, and showing affection for the objects the invented. I feel berger would agree with my ideas, because after creating a beautiful piece of art work some of your heart goes into these painting. Also, making his painting an ideal image of the women  created, only being a unperfect person in real life.

2. Pictures of women a presented everywhere from television, magazings, and run way models. These images can be presented in both classy and derogetory ways. Even tho most of the women in this article  presented are naked, you have to take the picture as a whole. They somewhat seem to be praised, because of the beautiful scenery behind them. I believe these images cannot be compared because it is two totally different aspects of looking at a women. These styles both have there own features and depict different ideas when you see them. In this day in age I feel our picture of women have changed a lot. If you look at many women in magazines now they are half naked and it somewhat sad. Looking at pictures of Marylin Monore from the 80’s, she is presented so much more classy and looks ten times more beauitful then women now.I believe the photography industry is devolving.

Appling and Exploring ideas

1. One type of artwork presented in a particular way, to me atleast, is male models. Honestly I just think they look really femanine and its somewhat for a man the be a male model. I feel the way women look at women in pictures is not the way women look at men and protray them differently. I believe there is a redicculous painting gap between Bergers painting and painting veiwed now. I only see pictures like Bergers in meusems. Also there is many different rules of social society today, and its also impossible to look at them with the same perspective.

3.  The ideas froms the 1970’s is suprizing, really relatable to how people look at pictures now. They do not look the same as pictures from the 1970’s although thoughts about them are still the same. Every man still believes he needs to be envisioned as powerful and a provider. Although the way men look at pictures of women might be somewhat more derogetory now, women still veiw these pictures in the same way.

McCloud

Before you Read

1. My all time favorite cartoon is SpongBob Squarepants. I still try to watch when I have time. Its one of the few cartoons I still find funny. I see so many connections between me the sponge. All my cousin even tell me, I am Spongebob! Him and me were basically souls mates and we both laugh at stupid, immature things and mess with there neighbors, with there bestfriend. Now that I think of it, I also used to work in a fast food industry. After watching this show for many years in realised the similarities.

Questions for disscussion and Journaling

1. I feel many people relate to the simplicity because we do not all the features of ourselfs, so it is easy for us to understand presented in this way. I still watch cartoons to this day and I know many people that also do the same. Everything is prefectly acceptable as long it is moderation and dosent consume your entire life. I feel McCloud would say its an amplification of our identification and it would be a simple way for people at a young age to present themselves.

2. I feel it was a visual technique used so the reader would understand the message he is trying to convey. It helps the reader really understand that we can present ourselfs through our words, the same way we can present them through images. Presented in this way opens your mind to new ways of expression and I really enjoyed the way it was expressed. I feel I wouldn’t of understood as many of his ideas presented in standard format.

Applying and Exploring Ideas

1. Yes, because I really don’t enjoying texts that elaborate, when they could easily be direct and to the point. It made this a very interesting and easy read. I understood most of the main points and sparked my interest in this topic. I think more english classes and language classes could benefit from this. I feel many students have trouble getting threw the information and visual imagery could easily solve this problem. It would also be easier for students to express themselves in this context.

2. McCloud feels as a yound adolesent growing up it is easier for us to convey the most important person in your life,yourself, through a cartoon. It easier to draw the simple details, instead of drawing every zip and freckle on your face. Although I have seen many real life images depicted to explain a subject. There are many examples of this, such a looking a tmountains and automattically think of hiking. Many visual images connect in my mind the certain words to help understand the concept more easily.